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	<title>Comments on: Shame. The Poor Widdle Piwates Want To Sue</title>
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		<title>By: Bobby Kotick only plays golf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Kotick only plays golf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I&#039;m not a pirate, but I do have strong opinions on your rights as a consumer and not being taken advantage of by big business.  

&quot;Jissus, passop die rooi gevaar&quot; 

The fact that they only banned the consoles and not the user tags (and it happened prior to yet another major games launch) should highlight the fact that the motivation behind the bans has nothing to do with curbing piracy but has a lot more to do with increasing profits on hardware sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#8217;m not a pirate, but I do have strong opinions on your rights as a consumer and not being taken advantage of by big business.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Jissus, passop die rooi gevaar&#8221; </p>
<p>The fact that they only banned the consoles and not the user tags (and it happened prior to yet another major games launch) should highlight the fact that the motivation behind the bans has nothing to do with curbing piracy but has a lot more to do with increasing profits on hardware sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Ndibu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ndibu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby, getting serious pirate vibe from you. No analogies, simple facts: Xbox Live terms and conditions do state that they have the right to refuse service to modded console. Pure and simple. You mod your console(even if its not for pirating) you get banned from Live. You don&#039;t like it? Do not agree with the terms and conditions then.
 
As for Live subscription, the gamer&#039;s account has NOT been banned, just the console. The user can still access and play on Live, provided it is on a console that does not go against the T&amp;C&#039;s.
Short of it? MS does not owe them jack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby, getting serious pirate vibe from you. No analogies, simple facts: Xbox Live terms and conditions do state that they have the right to refuse service to modded console. Pure and simple. You mod your console(even if its not for pirating) you get banned from Live. You don&#8217;t like it? Do not agree with the terms and conditions then.</p>
<p>As for Live subscription, the gamer&#8217;s account has NOT been banned, just the console. The user can still access and play on Live, provided it is on a console that does not go against the T&amp;C&#8217;s.<br />
Short of it? MS does not owe them jack.</p>
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		<title>By: StrifeHawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>StrifeHawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously stop acting holier than though half of you people are or were heavy pirates so stop lying!

What if you bought a 2nd hand xbox and you did not know it was chipped? This move is anti consumer, and pirating is wrong bla bla bla but its pirates that have forced companies to adapt, and not try and rip the consumer off, these days i dont think piracy is such a huge factor these days, surely must be on the decline with all these teeny boopers who think their holier than thou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously stop acting holier than though half of you people are or were heavy pirates so stop lying!</p>
<p>What if you bought a 2nd hand xbox and you did not know it was chipped? This move is anti consumer, and pirating is wrong bla bla bla but its pirates that have forced companies to adapt, and not try and rip the consumer off, these days i dont think piracy is such a huge factor these days, surely must be on the decline with all these teeny boopers who think their holier than thou</p>
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		<title>By: Nick de Bruyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick de Bruyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My very own words: &quot;Piracy isn’t nearly as bad of course but it’s just not fair.&quot; - I said it myself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My very own words: &#8220;Piracy isn’t nearly as bad of course but it’s just not fair.&#8221; &#8211; I said it myself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ewie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ewie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They only ban the ones where they could detect a 
non bought copy of the game was played. 

Have a look at xbox-scene.com and you will understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They only ban the ones where they could detect a<br />
non bought copy of the game was played. </p>
<p>Have a look at xbox-scene.com and you will understand.</p>
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		<title>By: BobbyKotickwouldsellhismother</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobbyKotickwouldsellhismother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re innocent until proven guilty, and the vast majority of those who were banned from xbox live never had the opportunity to have their guilt tested. Are you 100% certain that all of them modded their consoles to play pirated games? We&#039;re assuming that they did, and you know what they say about assumptions, (i.e. being the mother of all F-ups).  There&#039;s always reasonable doubt, and if that exists the case for unilateral banning is anti-consumer and therefore utterly and completely illegal, therefore the case against MS is actually strong, and they are well in their rights to demand their money back.

As fellow consumers, you should actually hope that they win. :kissing:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re innocent until proven guilty, and the vast majority of those who were banned from xbox live never had the opportunity to have their guilt tested. Are you 100% certain that all of them modded their consoles to play pirated games? We&#8217;re assuming that they did, and you know what they say about assumptions, (i.e. being the mother of all F-ups).  There&#8217;s always reasonable doubt, and if that exists the case for unilateral banning is anti-consumer and therefore utterly and completely illegal, therefore the case against MS is actually strong, and they are well in their rights to demand their money back.</p>
<p>As fellow consumers, you should actually hope that they win. <img src='http://www.lazygamer.co.za/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Nomicons v2.0/kissing.png' alt=':kissing:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BobbyKotickwouldsellhismother</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobbyKotickwouldsellhismother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally bunnyfight.  

And that&#039;s the issue, equating digital piracy (or file sharing) to rape, assault and murder is just ridiculous. At best, it&#039;s more akin to stealing from a retail shop, or pocketing an apple or two from Spar.  Obviously, it&#039;s still a crime, and when you&#039;re caught you should either pay a fine, do community service, or if you&#039;re a repeat offender either go into counselling or get a couple months worth of a suspended sentence but to insist that these guys be thrown into jail with the rapists, murderers etc. of the world is just utterly ridiculous.  There are bigger fish to fry in this world, like whether or not Bobby Kotick is guilty of insider trading. :devil:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally bunnyfight.  </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the issue, equating digital piracy (or file sharing) to rape, assault and murder is just ridiculous. At best, it&#8217;s more akin to stealing from a retail shop, or pocketing an apple or two from Spar.  Obviously, it&#8217;s still a crime, and when you&#8217;re caught you should either pay a fine, do community service, or if you&#8217;re a repeat offender either go into counselling or get a couple months worth of a suspended sentence but to insist that these guys be thrown into jail with the rapists, murderers etc. of the world is just utterly ridiculous.  There are bigger fish to fry in this world, like whether or not Bobby Kotick is guilty of insider trading. <img src='http://www.lazygamer.co.za/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Nomicons v2.0/devil.png' alt=':devil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BobbyKotickwouldsellhismother</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobbyKotickwouldsellhismother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an ad hominem fallacy, whether I am or whether I&#039;m not pro-pirate is immaterial.

For your information, I&#039;m actually not pro-pirate, but I don&#039;t agree with knee jerk responses to piracy. :whistle: The funniest one I&#039;ve heard in recent years was that piracy promotes terrorism (fortunately the claim was utterly and thoroughly destroyed by an Australian journalist, but yet it&#039;s still out there...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an ad hominem fallacy, whether I am or whether I&#8217;m not pro-pirate is immaterial.</p>
<p>For your information, I&#8217;m actually not pro-pirate, but I don&#8217;t agree with knee jerk responses to piracy. <img src='http://www.lazygamer.co.za/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Nomicons v2.0/whistling.png' alt=':whistle:' class='wp-smiley' /> The funniest one I&#8217;ve heard in recent years was that piracy promotes terrorism (fortunately the claim was utterly and thoroughly destroyed by an Australian journalist, but yet it&#8217;s still out there&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: WitWolfyZA</title>
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		<dc:creator>WitWolfyZA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im actually surprised the pirates actually decided to go through with this. Just when did criminals get rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im actually surprised the pirates actually decided to go through with this. Just when did criminals get rights?</p>
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		<title>By: V@mp</title>
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		<dc:creator>V@mp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you. Give them their money back and
then sue their pants off for x amount per game and a nice little bonus for modding the console with intent to commit the crime as well  :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you. Give them their money back and<br />
then sue their pants off for x amount per game and a nice little bonus for modding the console with intent to commit the crime as well  <img src='http://www.lazygamer.co.za/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Nomicons v2.0/smile.png' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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