Actually the Nvidia chip handles shadows better than the ATI chip in my opinion (even in cross platform games), but you’re right, the ATI in the 360 is more powerfull than the NVIDIA in the PS3.

What you’re not mentioning is that the CELL processor can help the GPU with rendering, equaling, and maybe even surpasing the 360’s graphical capabilities.

“We’re using the Cell engine to its limit”

http://kotaku.com/381412/kojima-disappointed-with-metal-gear-solid-4

Oops, looks like Kojima disagrees with you.

This is going to be interesting, I can’t wait to see if Microsoft actually has what it takes to step up to the plate. The war only starts now.

While I agree with the point that this will make MS up their game in terms of new releases (and of course set a new benchmark for graphics in the future), it is worth bearing in mind that the reason Halo 3 is so popular is the gameplay and not the last gen graphics engine (which was poor on release, never mind over a year later).

Graphics =/= Great gameplay, and as gamers I would have thought the writer of the article may have pointed that out…

Definitely looking forward to playing the game though!

Graphics alone does not a great game make – Left4Dead has fairly crappy graphics by next gen standards but it is buckets of fun.

GOW2 isnt an FPS!

just preodered mines! can’t wait. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FQBF1M?ie=UTF8&tag=source141-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B000FQBF1M Preorder Killzone 2 (PS3) for $56.99 – $5 coupon code(KZ2SAVE5)= $51.99 + free shipping. You also get a code for Killzone Helghast outfits for use with PS3 home

It really gets frustrating when fanboys keep harping on the same old lines … “KZ2 isn’t possible on the 360″, etc, etc. Those sort of statements don’t contain any validity, but rather smack of ignorance. HardcoreWare’s comparison between Xbox 360 and Playstation shows a game developer perspective and says…

“Graphics: The XBOX 360 is a clear winner. The GPU is more powerful. It has more powerful fillrate, and far more pixel and vertex processing horsepower. Part of the reason is their choice of memory, and architecture of pixel and vertex procesing. I can’t get into details but the same vertex shader will run much slower on the PS3 than the XBOX 360. The 360 also has a clever new way rendering high definition anti aliased back buffers. To accomplish the same effect on PS3 is prohibitively expensive. For this reason I think many games will have no choice but to run in non-HD resolutions on the PS3 version, use a lower quality anti aliasing technique, or do back buffer upscaling. The end result in all cases is going to be noticeably worse image quality.”

http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-348-1.htm

The reason why Killzone 2 isn’t on Xbox 360 … and why Gears of War 2 isn’t on Playstation 3 is only due to 1 factor … these are “exclusive” titles, and it’s all pure marketing. “Exclusive” has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not other consoles can manage to run a game or not, but indicate that a game was only marketed for a single console.

@ urbancr33p listen get off the ****ing subject saying stupid comments with false info from gamers. every title so far ps3 has out class the 360 in every area plus 360 upscale chip sucks, plus can’t even handle 1080p and about the so call tech , no developer has ever said that ps3 is inferior with the exception of carmack so far top 5 developers have proof him wrong, it is frustrating when fanboys keep saying about ****ing specs you want talk about limits 360 is maxxed out this are true facts epic ,bungie,guerrilla have mentioned several times.it funny how every ignorant fanboy still goes by multicross first the architectures are way different with the exception of ram in which ps3 split memory xdr+gddr3 is proven that is more efficient than 512mb gddr3.read this killzone2 has was develop into spu’s thats fast processing and tricore and ati so call xenos can’t handle killzone2. can you make it answer yes but it wont run proper got it : :

the only thing that xbox has that ps3 needs is better softwares to every 360 fanboy killzone2 is and will dominate all to existing fps but there others that are going to come out that will be better so stop trying to defend the 360 all killzone2 proof is that cell+rsx is a beast when used proper not to mentioned that blues play a huge factor in this race giving developers room to breath and elavorated so carmack comment is biting him with RAGE in terms of visual,audio etc. just enjoy your prefer console

lol, i agree with u, but not the part where u said that microsoft won’t bring out anything good in the next 3 years. trust me they r very smart, they know what the people demand and what they need to fullfill thier demands. plus if u look at the past, even thou hd-dvd lost, microsoft still didn’ lose it sales jsut because ps3 has a blu-ray player.

And we still have the Halo chronicle project coming out next year, we have FFXIII and rust me alan wake is coming out too, plus a few more good games, maybe even more some ps3 exclusive might come on xbox360 again.

so we can’t jsut gurantee anything right noww…so we’ll just have to wai for now!

(This is for the other ppl)
killzone looks better right now cuase its been in development for over 3 years and abiously its gonna look better since they r trying to make it look better than other games they have ever made for the ps3, and since ppl r trying to compare it to halo3, u just can’t cause halo 3 came out in 2007 and they didn’t focus on the graphics much, they jsut wanted it to look goood and have a better improved multiplayer with feaures like forge and video and stuff. so killzone will kick halo3’s ass really bad on the graphics, but for multiplayer, its gonna take playstation a few more year to get even close with halo3’s multiplayer!

So once again, lets just wait and see which system will win the console war becuase just over one game we can’t judge which system is going to kickass in the future.

Lol at you guys. Who really cares which console is better? Buy the console which will suit your needs the most. I bought a PS3 as it is a much better multi-media console, is a bit more future proof and for it’s exclusives – MGS4 (mainly). So what if I don’t have an X-Box to play the equally awesome exclusives? I’ll play it on my pc. As long as Microsoft releases all the X-Box ‘exclusives’ on pc I don’t see the need to buy an X-Box (well except for Gears 2, but that doesn’t warrant buying an X-Box).

lol … bandolero, don’t be so defensive. for your info … besides having an xbox 360, i’ve also got a ps3 and a ps2, and I am looking forward to playing killzone 2. so don’t label me a fanboy … sounds like you’re a ps3 fanboy though, because it doesn’t seem like you can objective about the topic.

my comments were only an attempt to say that the reason why kz2 is not coming to xbox, is because it’s a ps3 exclusive title. in the end, it doesn’t bother me at all if kz2 doesn’t come to xbox, because i can still play it on my ps3.

You make a fair point about the exclusives mostly going to PC as well, except that many people out their bought their consoles so that they don’t have to or even can’t keep up with the technology needed to run most games on PC.

I don’t think that the Xbox 360 has hit it’s full potential yet though, not by a long shot. Same goes for the PS3, so I’m still interested to see what comes next.

Erm, 17mil accounts is still accurate. I’ve read of 360 users with multiple accounts as well.

Also, let’s remember that all of those 17mil PSN accounts can be used to play games online. Of the approx 17mil Live accounts *only* the Golds can play online. And just like they don’t break down the PSN accounts by machine, MS doesn’t break down Live accounts between Gold and Silver.

And Live has been around since the original Xbox, while PSN has only been around a little over two years, and they both have about the same number of accounts.

But w/e.

Halo 3 is the best FPS? Stop dryhumping your XBoxes.

I’d rather play UT2k4, UT3, or CoD4 any day of the week.

Seriously. I got my PS3 in Dec ‘07, and I’ve got 15 disc-based games and over 40 PSN games.

Gee, sorry I wasn’t buying more games. Had to pick up that 56″ 1080p DLP. Oh, and the second PS3. Yeah, a second PS3, and the first one still works great (foreign concept to the Xboxer, I know) and is now packing a 500GB HDD.

From your link:
“I suspect a few years down the road some high budget, first party PS3 exclusive titles will come out that really take advantage of the SPU’s and do things the XBOX 360 can’t.”

Welcome to the here and now. Defered rendering and SPUs FTW!

Agreed

Kudos Nick on an extremely well written article !

good call grandmaster. Halo 3 is still good with more then a million people still playin with nearly a year since its release date. Not just that it is still like $70. There is also the return of bioshock 2 which stayed out for ages

it ’s not defensive but you said i’m a fanboy mamao the only fanboy is you posting stupid shit i own a 360 but the truth is if multi games weren’t around ms will be hurting right now and as far as 360 being more powerful ,only in your mind named last game that lifted graphics bar by 360 exclusive right none but 360 cpu+gpu are btter get real

But Halo 3 was released in 2006/2007 I think so that game will look out of date :/

Dude if your willing to buy crappy ported games and bargain bin abortions then thats your problem im talking about NEW RELEASES!

I hate to see your credit card dude

Believe it or not dude

didnt he say he maxed out the Blu ray disc??

What makes L4D so sweet is the countless hordes of zombies baby yeah..

Well i read this article like 8 months ago of how some game designers said that the true potential, of that console genration never really reached its peak and sopped at 65-75% so we’ll never see the true potentail of either system. thats my 2c

halo 3 sold many cos it always came whit a xbox. the xbl has more users cos it has been longer out. xbox360 sux cos it can get the so called death ring. ps3 will dominate next 7 years and then it will be ps4 and so on

Many 360 “fanboys” keep pushing the 360 further than it can reach. These are *facts* and no matter your opinion it wont change a thing. First coming from owning every console that had ever come out,the 360 doesn’t look good like before games are no as good as before and for the past 6 months no good 360 exclusive has worth even buying it. But yet many keep praising and posting many hopes for the 360 fans but really many on this site think that the 360 will take charge once again and *NO* it wont the upcoming titles are not good enough and not to many so what you think the outcome be, well the 360 about a year left maybe two tops before the release of 720 now look at the 2009 and 2010 the only thing that is keeping the 360 from falling is multi-cross platform games and lately the ps3 versions look better even when being ports from 360. Question what does killzone2 being able to be done on 360 what does it change*NOTHING* cause it wont come to 360 bet on it. One last thing the one that said that ps3 not even close to halo3 you right, I own halo3 and it’s garbage and halo3 multiplayer killzone2 is better way better. About sales! hmm sales don’t determined how good the game is. Wasting your time with sales subject. http://www.lazygamer.co.za/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Nomicons v2.0/whistling.png

killzone 2

Now that Killzone 2 has been available for the whole year, let’s examine the facts and see what actually happened:

* Killzone 2 was on the market for only three months before websites such as Gamespot were writing articles that said: “NPD Monthly Sales show that the three-month old Killzone 2 is already being outsold by Halo 3 — a game that has been on store shelves for 21 months.”

Obviously, Killzone 2 was NOT any type of “Killer App.”

* The Official Playstation Magazine said that Killzone 2 was “The greatest game ever made.” This means one of two things: Either the editor who said such a stupid thing was on an acid trip, or he was paid by Sony to tell a lie like that. For crying out loud, the guy needs to do a better job of lying in the future, because NOBODY believed the over-exaggerated like told by the “Official” Playstation Magazine that obviously was biased.

* Killzone 2 ended up being a game with a terrible single-player campaign that could be beaten quickly in as little as 8 hours. The single-player campaign has virtually no replay value.

* Kilzone 2 launched in 2009 — a year when Co-Op is a feature that is considered a “standard” feature in Shooting games like this. Even the first Killzone game featured offline Co-Op. But Killzone 2 does NOT offer any type of Co-Op gameplay at all. If you want to play through the campaign mode with a friend, tough luck, because Killzone 2 does NOT allow that to happen.

* Killzone 2 only runs at 30 frames per second with only a single-frame graphic buffer at 720p resolution. This isn’t impressive at all.

The fake video that Sony showed of Killzone 2 at the 2005 showed Killzone 2 running at 1920×1080p resolution at 60 frames per second with lighting and shading that is FAR BETTER than what we ended up with on the PS3. Anyone who has seen the Flamethrower in the 2005 video, and then compared it to the PS3 version knows that the lighting and the shading of Killzone 2 on the PS3 doesn’t even come close to the video from 2005, and it isn’t as good as the impressive lighting and shading in Halo 3 or Gears of War either.

* Killzone 2 doesn’t even let you install the game to the PS3 hard drive! The reason for this is because the developers are using the old programming technique of using hard drive as additional RAM support. The fact that the PS3 transfers data at only 9MB per second, compared to 16MB per second for the Xbox 360, is probably the entire reason why there is absolutely no form of co-op in Killzone 2. It is very disappointing when you will suddenly see three-second long frame-rate pauses in Killzone 2.

Bottom Line: Killzone 2 was a sales disappointment–it was on the market just three months before it was being outsold each month by games that were nearly two years old. The fact that Killzone 2 didn’t even include co-op features offered by the first Killzone game was probably the biggest disappointment of all. The lack of replay value in Killzone 2 was awful. Consumers were aware of this, which is why they were not interested in Killzone 2.

Oh, and from a Tennis point of view, if Killzone 2 was the game that Sony hit back onto Microsoft’s side of the court, it’s safe to say that Halo 3 outselling Killzone 2 after just three months was the ULTIMATE SHOT that hit Sony’s court, and then bounce up and hit Sony right in the teeth–shattering them and giving Microsoft the point.

Yes, but what are you trying to say?

he’s trying to say that killzone 2 was crap, and that the ps3 is even worse, so we all must buy an xbox and play halo.

i think.

Cheers!