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		<title>By: Montessori Kindergarten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Montessori Kindergarten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Montessori Kindergarten...&lt;/strong&gt;

Sie wurde von der Universität Amsterdam mit dem Ehrendoktor und als außerordentliche Hochschulprofessorin gewürdigt und mit dem Orden von Oranien und Nassau ausgezeichnet....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Montessori Kindergarten&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Sie wurde von der Universität Amsterdam mit dem Ehrendoktor und als außerordentliche Hochschulprofessorin gewürdigt und mit dem Orden von Oranien und Nassau ausgezeichnet&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: XBox 360 Rally &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Future 360 Games Requiring Hard Drive - Possible Rumor&#8230; or Just Old News?</title>
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		<dc:creator>XBox 360 Rally &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Future 360 Games Requiring Hard Drive - Possible Rumor&#8230; or Just Old News?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] require the hard drive. I am not sure how to take this, as they list no source on the issue. All links I could find about the subject link back to the XboxFamily.com site as the source. They have an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] require the hard drive. I am not sure how to take this, as they list no source on the issue. All links I could find about the subject link back to the XboxFamily.com site as the source. They have an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ocelot</title>
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		<dc:creator>ocelot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 11:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LG, so a spokesman posted it on the official forums, then MS had a word with them about making negative comments about the 360, and then the denail. Easy.

@ Ruslan:To say the PS3 lacks games just shows how biased you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LG, so a spokesman posted it on the official forums, then MS had a word with them about making negative comments about the 360, and then the denail. Easy.</p>
<p>@ Ruslan:To say the PS3 lacks games just shows how biased you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruslan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also own the PS3, does that make me a PS fanboy too? Or do the old PS2, PSP &amp; PS1 not count either? Perhaps the GC &amp; PC also place me into another fanboy group?

Ocelot, I am a gamer. And as a gamer I demand consoles to have games, which is something the PS3 currently lacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also own the PS3, does that make me a PS fanboy too? Or do the old PS2, PSP &amp; PS1 not count either? Perhaps the GC &amp; PC also place me into another fanboy group?</p>
<p>Ocelot, I am a gamer. And as a gamer I demand consoles to have games, which is something the PS3 currently lacks.</p>
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		<title>By: LazySAGamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>LazySAGamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ocelot Bizarre is officially denying that claim 
http://www.bizarrecreations.com/article.php?article_id=5257

So yeah, who knows what to believe... I  still don&#039;t see the problem of having multiple discs though. I would prefer not to obviously but it won&#039;t faze me if I do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ocelot Bizarre is officially denying that claim<br />
<a href="http://www.bizarrecreations.com/article.php?article_id=5257" rel="nofollow">http://www.bizarrecreations.com/article.php?article_id=5257</a></p>
<p>So yeah, who knows what to believe&#8230; I  still don&#8217;t see the problem of having multiple discs though. I would prefer not to obviously but it won&#8217;t faze me if I do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ocelot</title>
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		<dc:creator>ocelot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then again Ruslan, you are a fanboi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then again Ruslan, you are a fanboi.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruslan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruslan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How on earth was the X360 made on par with the PS3 if it was launched over 1 year earlier? They simply improved their first venture into the console market ( Xbox ) which by the way was SUPERIOR to the PS2 in many respects and HAD a HDD.

It was Sony&#039;s own fault to rely on the slow BR drive and its difficulties in the manufacturing process that may as well be their downfall in this current console competition. 

If Sony is already struggling now against a new rival ( X360 ) and a non-HD console ( Wii ) which they called &quot;stupid&quot; &amp; &quot;retarded&quot; how do you think they will fare in the next-generation? I think they will get their arses kicked by the Xbox 720 to be honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How on earth was the X360 made on par with the PS3 if it was launched over 1 year earlier? They simply improved their first venture into the console market ( Xbox ) which by the way was SUPERIOR to the PS2 in many respects and HAD a HDD.</p>
<p>It was Sony&#8217;s own fault to rely on the slow BR drive and its difficulties in the manufacturing process that may as well be their downfall in this current console competition. </p>
<p>If Sony is already struggling now against a new rival ( X360 ) and a non-HD console ( Wii ) which they called &#8220;stupid&#8221; &amp; &#8220;retarded&#8221; how do you think they will fare in the next-generation? I think they will get their arses kicked by the Xbox 720 to be honest.</p>
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		<title>By: EyeGod</title>
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		<dc:creator>EyeGod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pode I see what your saying, but the bottom line for me is M$ is waaaaay more sneaky than anyone is willing to admit - essentially they&#039;re just doing what needs to be done to make sure that the 360 is on par with the P$3.

I understand now why the P$3 is way more expensive - it&#039;s not cos $ony&#039;s ripping people off - it&#039;s just that out of the box they offer a way better deal...

The more I look at it the more I feel my initial impression will be correct - that the P$3 will once again prove victorious (or maybe 2nd place after the Wii, but it&#039;ll beat the 360 in the long run)... I think it&#039;s time to start saving...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pode I see what your saying, but the bottom line for me is M$ is waaaaay more sneaky than anyone is willing to admit &#8211; essentially they&#8217;re just doing what needs to be done to make sure that the 360 is on par with the P$3.</p>
<p>I understand now why the P$3 is way more expensive &#8211; it&#8217;s not cos $ony&#8217;s ripping people off &#8211; it&#8217;s just that out of the box they offer a way better deal&#8230;</p>
<p>The more I look at it the more I feel my initial impression will be correct &#8211; that the P$3 will once again prove victorious (or maybe 2nd place after the Wii, but it&#8217;ll beat the 360 in the long run)&#8230; I think it&#8217;s time to start saving&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: milez_away</title>
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		<dc:creator>milez_away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised by this at all, but now MS needs to be a little kinder to users. 

1) Pro needs to drop to Core Price, and Elite to the Pro&#039;s current price, Core be dropped completely. (They could nerf the lower prices Core and take away the headset and go wired controller again... that&#039;d be fine, if they need to save costs). Getting a consoel like the 360 with a HDD for R2600/$300 is a good deal compared to a PS3... or even a Wii for that matter. 

2) Along with the above, drop the price of the 20GB HDD. In SA, R400 - R500 is ok for an add-on (expensive for a 20GB HDD, but still ok... R900 is highway robbery)

As for the DVD-9 issue... 
Perhaps i&#039;m missing something here, but why did Bizarre need to make seperate textures for each time of day anyway ? Isn&#039;t the 360 powerful enough to handle whatever PGR4 needs and be able to apply the lighting calcs in realtime for time of day, is that optimisation really neccessary ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised by this at all, but now MS needs to be a little kinder to users. </p>
<p>1) Pro needs to drop to Core Price, and Elite to the Pro&#8217;s current price, Core be dropped completely. (They could nerf the lower prices Core and take away the headset and go wired controller again&#8230; that&#8217;d be fine, if they need to save costs). Getting a consoel like the 360 with a HDD for R2600/$300 is a good deal compared to a PS3&#8230; or even a Wii for that matter. </p>
<p>2) Along with the above, drop the price of the 20GB HDD. In SA, R400 &#8211; R500 is ok for an add-on (expensive for a 20GB HDD, but still ok&#8230; R900 is highway robbery)</p>
<p>As for the DVD-9 issue&#8230;<br />
Perhaps i&#8217;m missing something here, but why did Bizarre need to make seperate textures for each time of day anyway ? Isn&#8217;t the 360 powerful enough to handle whatever PGR4 needs and be able to apply the lighting calcs in realtime for time of day, is that optimisation really neccessary ?</p>
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		<title>By: ocelot</title>
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		<dc:creator>ocelot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 07:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posting in the official Bizarre Creations forum, a staff member noted, &quot;You won&#039;t see different times of day per city because this involves recreating all the textures again (one for day and one for night). Whilst this wasn&#039;t a problem for our dev team, it was a problem fitting all this data onto a single DVD.&quot;

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/30/bizarre-confirms-pgr4s-cities-comments-on-dvd-constraints/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting in the official Bizarre Creations forum, a staff member noted, &#8220;You won&#8217;t see different times of day per city because this involves recreating all the textures again (one for day and one for night). Whilst this wasn&#8217;t a problem for our dev team, it was a problem fitting all this data onto a single DVD.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/30/bizarre-confirms-pgr4s-cities-comments-on-dvd-constraints/" rel="nofollow">http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/30/bizarre-confirms-pgr4s-cities-comments-on-dvd-constraints/</a></p>
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